Vizio Web-Enabled Connected LCD TVs - SV422XVT, SV472XVT and VF552XVT
Last updated on 11/29/2010
Though many manufacturers are introducing web-widgets into their televisions, none seem to be going as far as Vizio. These three new XVT-model LCD TVs are packed with incredible options for streaming Internet content direction to your big screen.
By Michael Patrick Brady
Update 2/12/10: All three models are now available through Amazon and a number of other online retailers. Vizio took an interesting approach to rolling these models out. The first run of models was offered exclusively to "VIA VIP members" who filled out an online application to get their place in line for these models -- read the full story from Gary (a lucky recipient of one of the first models) in the comments section below.
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A couple of weeks ago, we previewed the Vizio XVT line of LCD televisions. The XVT line consists of televisions with high-end features meant to lure consumers to Vizio's larger-sized televisions. In that preview, we didn't touch on three very important XVT televisions, ones that deserve their own showcase. The Vizio SV422XVT, SV472XVT and VF552XVT LCD televisions are being called 'connected' HDTVs because of their ability to link up with your home Internet connection and serve up streaming video content directly from the Web. Similar to efforts being undertaken by Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and LG, these connected HDTVs allow viewers to access streaming content from a variety of impressive partners. Vizio is hoping to stand out from the crowd, however, but introducing some very forward-thinking innovations in their connected sets.
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A couple of weeks ago, we previewed the Vizio XVT line of LCD televisions. The XVT line consists of televisions with high-end features meant to lure consumers to Vizio's larger-sized televisions. In that preview, we didn't touch on three very important XVT televisions, ones that deserve their own showcase. The Vizio SV422XVT, SV472XVT and VF552XVT LCD televisions are being called 'connected' HDTVs because of their ability to link up with your home Internet connection and serve up streaming video content directly from the Web. Similar to efforts being undertaken by Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and LG, these connected HDTVs allow viewers to access streaming content from a variety of impressive partners. Vizio is hoping to stand out from the crowd, however, but introducing some very forward-thinking innovations in their connected sets.
Wireless Wonders
One major difference between the Vizio sets and their peers is the inclusion of 802.11n Wi-Fi wireless networking. Where most 'connected' TVs require a direct, wired Ethernet hookup, the Vizio televisions can access your home network wirelessly. That means no annoying, unsightly CAT5 cables reaching from your router to your television.An Innovative Remote Control
Also departing from established norms is the Vizio remote control for these televisions. In an effort to provide greater access and versatility, the new Vizio control will feature a slide-out QWERTY keyboard, similar to the ones found on smart phones. That's a pretty big step, one that will no doubt be emulated in the coming years, once Internet TV begins to really take hold.The Goods: Internet Content Streaming Direct to the TV
The Vizio connected TVs will allow viewers to watch videos from Netflix, Blockbuster OnDemand, Showtime, and Vudu, among others, while also providing access to Web applications like Facebook, Flickr, and Pandora. There's no word on that rumored Hulu partnership, so keep your fingers crossed.Conclusion: Very Promising
The SV422XVT, SV472XVT and VF552XVT have manufacturer's suggested retail prices of $1,199, $1,699, and $2,199, respectively. That's pretty average considering all the fancy new technology found in these televisions. The 47 and 55-inch models also feature LED backlights that can utilize local dimming to provide deeper, darker blacks and crisper whites without sacrificing contrast. The 42-inch model does not have an LED backlight. All in all, Vizio's connected TVs are definitely worth keeping an eye on, and if they turn up to be as good as they sound upon release, it could give them a big head start on this growing trend toward Web-enabled TV.Vizio Web-Enabled Connected LCD TVs - SV422XVT, SV472XVT and VF552XVT Comments & Questions (write your own!)
Where Is The Web Browser? (Tom Leonard — 01/24/2011)
Why no web browser? I love the TV, but would really enjoy being able to browse independently of my laptop.
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by James DeRuvo (01/25/2011)
I'd recommend using a game platform like XBox and a media server like XBMC.
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Streaming French TV from TF1 (Philippe — 12/20/2010)
My wife likes to watch the straeaming video news from French TV on TF1: www.tf1.fr. Can these stream it directly, or do I have to continue patching in my laptop?
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Liam McCabe (12/23/2010)
I'm assuming you'll have to patch in a laptop -- unless TF1 has a widget for American Vizio sets (which I'm guessing is pretty unlikely).
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Defective TV no Tech Support (Al Jamison — 11/27/2010)
I returned my vizio tv. After 3 months the lower backlight started to flicker. The so called technical support gave me the run around. I was in love with the tv
but with no tech support I decided to return it, that was a couple of months ago and I'm still waiting on a return call to get service.. ha some service.
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but with no tech support I decided to return it, that was a couple of months ago and I'm still waiting on a return call to get service.. ha some service.
Dwayne (11/01/2010)
I have a vizio sv422xvt and i called a vizio tech today about a broken remote and they are sending me a new one. I also asked about losing sound when i switch
channels about once a week. He advised me to turn off my hd dvr Motorola DCX3400 set top box and hit menu on the box to bring up the box menu and set
the audio function to LPCM instead of auto. I don't know if this will work yet since
i just did it today but he seemed very confident that this was my problem. He also asked if i was using a hdmi cable. I hope this helps you and me.
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channels about once a week. He advised me to turn off my hd dvr Motorola DCX3400 set top box and hit menu on the box to bring up the box menu and set
the audio function to LPCM instead of auto. I don't know if this will work yet since
i just did it today but he seemed very confident that this was my problem. He also asked if i was using a hdmi cable. I hope this helps you and me.
VF552XVT REVIEW (MICK — 10/28/2010)
I just purchased a 55" and IT'S INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!
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Sound shuts off sometimes (Tim — 10/28/2010)
I've had my sv472xvt for about 6 months and I love it! The only problem I have had is that sometimes, maybe once to twice a week, the sound just shuts off for no reason. The only way to get it back on is to cycle the power on the t.v.. It's kind of a pain because it takes 20 seconds or so to get it back on and you miss parts of your show. Anybody else have this wierd problem? I just wish it wouldn't do that anymore. Other than that, it's been a great t.v.. - Tim
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Shut off Problem (Bryan H — 02/13/2011)
We have had this TV for 7 months it has been great except for a few issues. Have had problem with switching between 1080i and 480p channnels. Was told it was an issue with the Motorala DVR that comcast uses. Then watching TV it just truned off. Could not get it to come back on (VIZIO was amber color). Power cycle did not work. What about an hour tried power cycle again and it came back on. VIZIO sent tech support out and replaced board.
Yesterday when watching TV it shut down, this time VIZIO light was flashing, was able to turn back on after 45 seconds. It did it once more today. Contacted Tech Suppot and they had me "Clear Memory (factory default)" to fix. Apparently there is an issue with the latest firmware. Have had it happen since resetting.
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Yesterday when watching TV it shut down, this time VIZIO light was flashing, was able to turn back on after 45 seconds. It did it once more today. Contacted Tech Suppot and they had me "Clear Memory (factory default)" to fix. Apparently there is an issue with the latest firmware. Have had it happen since resetting.
Shut off Problem (Bryan H — 02/13/2011)
We have had this TV for 7 months it has been great except for a few issues. Have had problem with switching between 1080i and 480p channnels. Was told it was an issue with the Motorala DVR that comcast uses. Then watching TV it just truned off. Could not get it to come back on (VIZIO was amber color). Power cycle did not work. What about an hour tried power cycle again and it came back on. VIZIO sent tech support out and replaced board.
Yesterday when watching TV it shut down, this time VIZIO light was flashing, was able to turn back on after 45 seconds. It did it once more today. Contacted Tech Suppot and they had me "Clear Memory (factory default)" to fix. Apparently there is an issue with the latest firmware. Have had it happen since resetting.
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Yesterday when watching TV it shut down, this time VIZIO light was flashing, was able to turn back on after 45 seconds. It did it once more today. Contacted Tech Suppot and they had me "Clear Memory (factory default)" to fix. Apparently there is an issue with the latest firmware. Have had it happen since resetting.
browsing internet on a SV422XVT (Rocio — 10/27/2010)
Does anyone know if you can surf the web on a SV422XVT? I mean if you can browse any web page or you can only get the ones that are pre loaded?
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Liam McCabe (11/11/2010)
No there's no web browser. It's a "closed" experience, meaning that you can only access stuff that Vizio lets you access. Kind of lame, but that's the way that it is.
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VF552XVT Needs a Web Browser (JohnnyMop — 10/24/2010)
I purchased a VF552XVT. Great product. But (you knew this was coming), I'm disappointed that there is no full Internet browser application like Firefox or MSN.
What was (is) the reason? Does anyone know of a “workaround”?
Or, does anyone know if an upgrade in the works to add that feature, including a mouse app to make it really user-friendly?
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What was (is) the reason? Does anyone know of a “workaround”?
Or, does anyone know if an upgrade in the works to add that feature, including a mouse app to make it really user-friendly?
Liam McCabe (11/11/2010)
I haven't heard of anything like this built into TVs -- seems like manufacturers, many of whom control a lot of the content out there anyway, don't want you to be able to freely browse. They want you to consume what they (or their business partners) have created.
The closest you can get now is an internet box like the Boxee Box (released this week) or Google TV (which is, to be fair, built into a few Sony TVs, but also available as a standalone box from Logitech).
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The closest you can get now is an internet box like the Boxee Box (released this week) or Google TV (which is, to be fair, built into a few Sony TVs, but also available as a standalone box from Logitech).
internet problems (cjuett — 10/02/2010)
we have a vizio sv472xvt and we are having trouble getting to a browser on the internet. we are stuck at the network connection it shows the linsys wireless connection but it won't let us choose that option. how can we connect to an internet browser?
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Liam McCabe (11/11/2010)
No browser on these -- only pages that the Vizio service lets you see.
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SV472XVT cuts off by itself (Al Jamison — 07/16/2010)
My new vizio SV472XVT has cut itself off once. I don not know if it was updating or not, the first time it updated was when I first cut it on and it said it was going to update, I do not have a clue why the picture froze and then it shut itself down but it did not start backup by itself.. No problems since then. Going on the third week with it.. I love it so far.
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powers off (Eric — 11/27/2010)
I just got the SV472XVT and I love it! I have had it about 2 months, but the past 2 weeks, it's been shutting off by itself. The picture will freeze for a few seconds and then it shuts down. Vizio is coming to replace it though, so hopefully the next one doesn't do it too.
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Streaming Media on LAN through Ethernet port? (Jason Jones — 07/12/2010)
I have the SV472XVT set and love it! I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a way to steam media to it from my Local Area Network like I can do on my Xbox360 and PS3? Since the set has a wired ethernet port and a wireless 802.11n connection it seems like this should be available.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Any help would be greatly appreciated!
by James DeRuvo (07/16/2010)
Yes, they do. Via custom net apps like Netflix. THere's also net apps for flickr, Vudu, Yahoo Video, etc.
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Jason Jones (07/16/2010)
Thank you. I'm aware of the widgets on the Vizio, and that you can stream from net apps like Netflix and Vudu. I was asking more of like a windows media server where I can browse my network for videos and pictures that I have stored on other computers and network attached storage devices.
I have a lot of movies and pictures already stored on my network and would like to be able to access them through the ethernet port on my Vizio set.
Again, any help or direction would be appreciated!
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I have a lot of movies and pictures already stored on my network and would like to be able to access them through the ethernet port on my Vizio set.
Again, any help or direction would be appreciated!
streaming (Rajesh — 08/30/2010)
You should be able to stream using tools like Tversity.
Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps.
No Internet Browser (Paul — 07/05/2010)
I just bought the SV472XVT. Although my family like the product, the one thing lacking for me is the Web browser. I was hoping that I can do my web surfing on this TV too, since it was advertised as having Internet connectivity.
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by James DeRuvo (07/07/2010)
The web enabled capability is usually limited to partner sites. In particular, Netflix and Amazon widgets, music via Rhapsody and news, sports and weather through Yahoo. THat's really about it.
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Jadis (06/08/2010)
In Canada, totally no such xx2XVT model, it also difficult to find xx1XVT, and extreme expensive than Japan/Korea model. At first, I made a lot of appeal to Vizio. But now I had referring to Samsung(C650), similar feature, at least price reasonable, software may have long turn support.
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Jadis (06/09/2010)
XVT472SV and SV472XVT is totally different produce. The former one is junk.
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VIA VIP Program a winner! (BartmanLA — 04/29/2010)
I signed up on Vizio's website for updates on the new LED model tv's and got an email announcing the VIP program I jumped right on it. Got a call a couple of days later offering me the 55" or the 47" LED models at a discount, with free white glove shipping if I participated in their VIA apps survey for 6 weeks. I got the TV, and loved it! Did the survey's every week and after I completed, 3 weeks later I got my free Soundbar with Wireless SubWoofer and Blu-Ray disk player. Picture is awesome, bright, and crisp, plenty of inputs, (wished the USB ports were working too) but I'm a very happy owner!
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VIZIO Quality, Do they last? (Mike Smith — 04/27/2010)
I purchased a 47" VIZIO LCD TV in Dec 2007 and in April of 2010 it died. The warranty was only for one year. I called VIZIO tech support and nothing they suggested worked. What good is lifetime tech support if the TV dies in a little over two years. I expected a longer TV life for the price (over $1,000.00 in 2007). I am trying to decide whether to buy another VIZIO. I know the picture quality is good that why I purchased one in the first place but will they last? Has anyone else had a similar experience or was mine just a lemon. I owned primarily Sony TVs before and their quality was very good as well as their prices high.
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warranty (BartmanLA — 04/29/2010)
I got a SV472XVT LED tv, and purchased a separate Square Trade warranty for $99 for 3 yrs with full in home replacement or repair. You might want to check it out
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type of router (Michele — 04/11/2010)
Can the sv422svt be hooked up to a wireless g router? Or must it be an n?
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jltnol (03/11/2010)
Hey there.... am considering this TV.... I have a relatively new Sony, but as it turns out, when connected to an antenna(I gave up on crappy cable months ago), the digital audio output does NOT output 5.1, only 2.0 audio, even though I now for a fact that the local tv stations are passing 5.1 audio from the networks. (My previous Samsung DID output 5.1 from the built in tuner)
Does anyone know for SURE that this Vizio outputs 5.1 thru the digital audio out to be decoded by a 5.1 receiver.... or at least that Vizio's in general does output 5.1?
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Does anyone know for SURE that this Vizio outputs 5.1 thru the digital audio out to be decoded by a 5.1 receiver.... or at least that Vizio's in general does output 5.1?
GScherler (03/11/2010)
5.1 is accessed through the SPDIF Digital Optical Audio out on the VF552XVT per the manual on page 59 of the User Manual. Here's the link to the manual: vizio.com/documents/downloa... is the Ph # for VIZIO: 888-849-4623 They answer pretty quick. Also they are available on Facebook: facebook.com/VIZIO
The best place for info on the 552, 472 and the 422 is in this post on the avsforum: avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthr... Well, this is the last page as it's on page 143 already. Ton's of info. But still go ahead and call them!
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The best place for info on the 552, 472 and the 422 is in this post on the avsforum: avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthr... Well, this is the last page as it's on page 143 already. Ton's of info. But still go ahead and call them!
macination (02/20/2010)
Looks like Sam's Club is finally offering the SV472XVT, although they have the model number as XVT472SV. Their price, $1387. Even thought the model number is wrong, the description is correct. Check it out.
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XVT472SV (Mike Smith — 04/27/2010)
XVT472SV is not web enabled. It is on special a SAM's for $1,148.00.
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daeditor (01/22/2010)
Hmm...months of delays, limited release, non-functioning USB ports...sounds funny from where I'm sitting.
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Potatochip99 (01/22/2010)
Yep, your right.. hopefully they'll have an update for that soon.. they have 3 usb ports over there after all!! Also, I watched a couple discs of Star Wars Clone Wars on Bluray last after a couple setting tweaks and it looked amazing. Extremely crisp image with no image distortions that I could see on first viewing. If they get those usb ports playing some .avi and .mkv files this may be the perfect tv.
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Potatochip99 (01/22/2010)
I ordered my 552 last tuesday and recieved it yesterday, so far the widgets are pretty cool and movie streaming seemed to work great, I was able to stream a hd preview for Star Trek over a wireless G network with very little video stutter, even so Im sure I'll switch over to a N network soon. I had to turn off the TrueCinema feature, as it seemed to give the picture a fake video look. All in all I'm very impressed with the picture as well as black levels, although I'm a perfectionist and will probably be tinkering with the settings for a while. Only complaint so far is that I noticed a slight amount of noise or occasionally what appears to be problems deinterlacing durring some of the high speed scene transitions (While watching Training Day on Bluray through a PS3/hdmi). I'm going to try another movie and also tweak some settings before I would declare it an issue however. Also going to try playing some video through the usb interface. Does anyone know what video formats are supported? I already have the WD media center hooked up if all else fails.
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Responce to Potatochip99 (fredrock46 — 04/14/2010)
I am preparing to buy the VIZIO SV422XVT and have a question. You mentioned having a WD media player connected to your TV. Me too. I'm wondering if the new WD media player Live (eg. the one with eithernet port) would serve the same purpose as the hardware in the XVT TV itself. The media player doesn't have a keyboard I know but I mean other than that. Can you help me understand this better?
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wiukevin (01/21/2010)
I just ordered my 47" on the VIP program. As of 1:50CST on 1/20, they are out of 55", but have 20" 47's left.
$1500, plus free blue ray and sound bar.
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$1500, plus free blue ray and sound bar.
ScoopJackson (01/16/2010)
Does it still have the silver speaker bar?
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ScoopJackson (01/15/2010)
The Vizio website is reporting the VF552XVT as out of stock. So I still don't think it's available to those who have not participated in the VIP program.
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TallyCat (01/14/2010)
I received an email invite, but no follow up so I suppose I am NOT one of the fortunate ones selected to participate in their "VIA VIP" program. It would have been nice for VIZIO to announce to recipients of their "invite to apply" that they weren't selected.
Not the final factor, but the way they handled this is making me more likely to buy a Samsung.
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Not the final factor, but the way they handled this is making me more likely to buy a Samsung.
daeditor (01/14/2010)
Thanks very much for your input gary. It's an interesting program they have set up--though its frustrating that they keep pushing back the release dates. Makes me wonder when we'll actually see the 3D sets they have lined up for August.
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macination (01/13/2010)
Just wondering if ANYONE really knows what Vizio is up to with this line of TV's? After coming to this page for months, there have been no real updates (Jan.6 was not informative). While at CES 2010, Vizio released information about their new line even though they have NOT even released the 2009 models in the market (see "coming soon" above or just Google a model number and you'll see). For a company which pro ports to be on the forefront of technology and price, their continued stumbling on release dates seems troubling. Any research or clarification by this web site's owners would be greatly appreciated.
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daeditor (01/13/2010)
All 2009 models have been released, but they're only available through
Vizio's website. We held off on linking to those pages because we
hoped that one of our merchant partners would begin to offer them
soon. They still have not, which is why our product info has not been
updated. Go to the Vizio website if you're interested.
- Liam/DigitalAdvisor
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Vizio's website. We held off on linking to those pages because we
hoped that one of our merchant partners would begin to offer them
soon. They still have not, which is why our product info has not been
updated. Go to the Vizio website if you're interested.
- Liam/DigitalAdvisor
daeditor (01/06/2010)
It's about time!
Funny that they finally released it on the very same day that they
announce their next gen sets: 3-D ready, 480 Hz, local-dimming LED,
WiFi, up to 70 inches. Sounds totally absurd, but they're supposed to
cost the same as the current crop of XVTs when they come out in August.
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Funny that they finally released it on the very same day that they
announce their next gen sets: 3-D ready, 480 Hz, local-dimming LED,
WiFi, up to 70 inches. Sounds totally absurd, but they're supposed to
cost the same as the current crop of XVTs when they come out in August.
TallyCat (12/20/2009)
Any current estimate of when VF552XVT will be on sale? It was to be pre-Black Friday, but now things are still "on hold."
DA Editor, have you seen a production unit? Will it still have that silver speaker band at bottom or will it have the black speaker front like on some of the other Vizio TV's?
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DA Editor, have you seen a production unit? Will it still have that silver speaker band at bottom or will it have the black speaker front like on some of the other Vizio TV's?
bobport (01/02/2010)
I was really wanting to get the new SV472XVT y end of the year - ideally pre-XMAS ... but according to Vizio's PR person the release date is now late January 2010. All we can hope for now is it will be before Super Bowl Sunday and the Winter Olympics!!!! Come on VIZIO .... customers are waiting!
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rezanate (12/13/2009)
Seen the 551, it was good enough to give the Samsung 8500 a run for its money, even besting it in a few categories in a Cnet comparison. But with televisions, seeing is believing, and after I personally saw this tv, I can honestly say it does indeed give the 8500 series 55" Samsung a SERIOUS run for the top LED LCD tv title. its THAT good. With Wifi on the 552, things can only get better. Im waiting for these televisions,.... at only a little over half the cost of the Samsung, there's really no comparison at all. Last word on release dates was Some time in January.
I was a diehard Sony fan until I saw the Samsung LEDs,... then these came out and I was WOWed by the quality of the screen at a price so much lower than the competition,... I still cant believe its a Vizio that I saw. Im still waiting for the letters to fall off revealing that its really a Samsung or a Sony.
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I was a diehard Sony fan until I saw the Samsung LEDs,... then these came out and I was WOWed by the quality of the screen at a price so much lower than the competition,... I still cant believe its a Vizio that I saw. Im still waiting for the letters to fall off revealing that its really a Samsung or a Sony.
troybliss (12/04/2009)
doesnt have a web browser. i was looking forward to eliminating the home pc for that. other than that, looks like a good deal.
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macination (11/23/2009)
Vizio has either continually released erroneous release dates to build up anticipation or, more likely, they are completely incompetent. I had been holding out for the third generation SVT's to be released for over four months now. I'm tired of waiting and tired of their BS so I'm going in a different direction.
Now that Samsung, and others, have released web enabled/wireless Blu-Ray players for less than $300, I will be buying one of those and a good 120hZ (or higher), LED, LCD, high contrast 40"+ TV for $1000-1200. While this combo is not the dreamed hope that Vizio was promising, at least the price of my option will cost less than the 47" SVT472XVT at $1700+ and I can have web enabled TV NOW. Perhaps next time Vizio will have it's act together and not promise what it cannot deliver.
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Now that Samsung, and others, have released web enabled/wireless Blu-Ray players for less than $300, I will be buying one of those and a good 120hZ (or higher), LED, LCD, high contrast 40"+ TV for $1000-1200. While this combo is not the dreamed hope that Vizio was promising, at least the price of my option will cost less than the 47" SVT472XVT at $1700+ and I can have web enabled TV NOW. Perhaps next time Vizio will have it's act together and not promise what it cannot deliver.
consumerman (11/20/2009)
It's November 19th where is the new VF552XVT. Ads are out for Black Friday and this model isn't in them.
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daeditor (11/09/2009)
Yes, it was originally supposed to be released last month. But
according to their PR person, the shipping date for all three of the
internet-ready TVs (including the SV472XVT) was pushed back to the end
of November. Didn't include an explanation along with that,
unfortunately. We shall see if they come through this time, though I'm
sure they're pushing very hard to get it out by Black Friday.
~ Liam/Digital Advisor
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according to their PR person, the shipping date for all three of the
internet-ready TVs (including the SV472XVT) was pushed back to the end
of November. Didn't include an explanation along with that,
unfortunately. We shall see if they come through this time, though I'm
sure they're pushing very hard to get it out by Black Friday.
~ Liam/Digital Advisor
DigitalMan (08/15/2009)
I love the idea of supporting a company that is majority USA owned. Vizio has transformed from a big screen, low-quality mfgr to a player in the market at a very strong value point.
Like many folks, I have an opening over my fireplace that was built pre-wide screen era...just a 40" opening, but wired with all the power and high speed connectivity for Verizon FIOS, etc. I would prefer a 47" set, but a slim frame HDTV set with a 42" screen will just barely fit, which is better looking and much easier to deal with than some wierd mounting. (I'll put a really large TV in the recreation room.)
I highly encourage Vizio to expand production of their LED backlighting with local dimming to include more set sizes, including the 42" - - I know, self-serving. :-) I also encourage them to expand from White LED to multi-color LED to provide a more natural color rendention.
dk
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Like many folks, I have an opening over my fireplace that was built pre-wide screen era...just a 40" opening, but wired with all the power and high speed connectivity for Verizon FIOS, etc. I would prefer a 47" set, but a slim frame HDTV set with a 42" screen will just barely fit, which is better looking and much easier to deal with than some wierd mounting. (I'll put a really large TV in the recreation room.)
I highly encourage Vizio to expand production of their LED backlighting with local dimming to include more set sizes, including the 42" - - I know, self-serving. :-) I also encourage them to expand from White LED to multi-color LED to provide a more natural color rendention.
dk
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